Nazmul Hasan, "There will be drastic change in team."

[MHRAM]

Mushfiq the leader and batsman is fine.

His tactics is what baffles everyone and I think he is not the only to be blamed. The coach is also responsible for such horror tactics like bringing your best bowler during the 13th over

[ahnaf]

Originally Posted by Jadukor
Tournament er majhkhane aishob kotha boila ki laav?
the players we have are the best players in the country. Who are we going to bring through drastic changes? Junaid Siddique, Naeem, Rockibul Hassan? Or some more 19 yr old with promise who will eventually be discarded in a couple of years?

players are fine it is the management that needs to be changed. We need to sack Mushy as captain, JS and the rest of the coaching staff, Chief Selector and bringing in new individuals with fresh ideas.

that what i'm thinking. Whats point of all of this? Who the hell gonna replace these players? We all can see how fan favorite Rumman aka Bpl Hit performing with the bat. Since his debut, not even single match he did look comfortable including the matches against associates.
And Specialist Coach for T20? Seriously? WTF is he thinking? Either he is bs-ting us or he really don't have idea what the **** needs to do to solve our main problems.
If he really want solve our problems. then his first priority should be to appoint a Specialist Batting and Spin bowling Coach. Not talking nonsense in press.

[Sohel]

Papon's public comments at this particular time could go either way, and I'm hoping for the best. I won't bet on it but can't abandon hope. I just wish some powerful and influential folks in this country would would be critical of themselves before calling others out. BCB since Saber Bhai's ouster way back when, should at the top of our list. They've failed to create quality domestic cricket capable of adequately preparing our players for the highest level in terms of basic skills, sustainable fitness and work ethic, and the winning mentality of a professional athlete.

Casual club organizers like Papon and most of the former moholla cricketers surrounding him don't know enough about what it takes to make it in international cricket. That's why they neither see not care about endemic flaws that *WILL* bite us on the @$$ as long as we're winning. They don't understand what it takes to make those wins sustainable in international cricket. Then there's the nepotism, intellectually dishonest and totally decontextualized statistical geekfesting to cover up the truth they barely understand themselves, and the abject unwillingness to go to local games to watch our prospects play, or learn the game enough to have a clear idea as to what they're looking at.

Mit'hu's mindless and suicidal adherence to the "script" is nothing new. Neither is his propensity for costly wicket keeping error due to lack of lateral movement, or nepotism. Yet he's "Captain Fantastic" when we win because most don't critically look at "how" we managed it and what role his imbecilic field-setting, dangerously retarded bowler management and sniveling nepotism or kajer buar gyaraimma kutnami played in the victory.

Coaching-wise, the same type of casual BS holds true. We *STILL* don't have a cohesive batting unit with basic footwork. They've never been capable or willing to rotate the strike with ease. They throw their wickets away largely due to unforced batting error or biomechanics even schoolboys master in every other test playing nation. We have selfish players who play to stay on the payroll at the detriment of the team, and our running between the wickets stinks of laziness, ineptitude and Mr. Benson's crotch.

Bowling-wise, we have containment bowlers who rely on unforced batting error to get wickets, and feel it's OK to bowl boundary balls with alarming regularity and concede at least one outrageously expensive over. Playing on dead pitches obviously don't help them develop genuinely unplayable or threatening deliveries, especially in our picnic cricket domestics where batsmen don't need to move their feet or hold a bat properly to score double hundreds.

Fielding is something unrelated to talent. It's all about fitness and drills. There is *NO* excuse for the type of display being shoved up our ***es of late.

[Sohel]

My solution will involve the following: -

1) Saber Bhai as an uncompromising, Vladimir Putinesque BCB Tsar and Shakil Kasem as his equally capable PM.

2) KM Pilot as the chief selector. He'll work with the coaching staff and captain to select coachable players serious about winning and representing our country.

3) Shourobh Ganguly as the ruthless Head Coach capable of Bangla gala-gali, Salahuddin as the batting coach, Ian Pont as the bowling coach, Julien Fountain as the fielding coach.

4) Shakib Al Hasan as the captain but he must be guided into better PR skills and work ethic off the field.

[Naimul_Hd]

Originally Posted by Sohel
My solution will involve the following: -

1) Saber Bhai as an uncompromising, Vladimir Putinesque BCB Tsar ans Shakil Kasem as his equally capable PM.

2) KM Pilot as the chief selector. He'll work with the coaching staff and captain to select coachable players serious about winning and representing our country.

3) Shourobh Ganguly as the ruthless Head Coach capable of Bangla gala-gali, Salahuddin as the batting coach, Ian Pont as the bowling coach, Julien Fountain as the fielding coach.

4) Shakib Al Hasan as the captain but he must be guided into better PR skills and work ethic off the field.

Knowing current PM's interest in the game, I think she should come forward and have a chat with both Papon & Saber bhai and should take the above actions

[Saifulsohel]

নাজমুল সরাসরিই বললেন, ‘এই টুর্নামেন্টের পর আমার ধারণা অনেক পরিবর্তন আসবে। যেখানে যেটা করা দরকার আমরা করব। নতুন নতুন খেলোয়াড় আনার ব্যবস্থা করতে হবে। এখন এটা বলে কারও মন খারাপ করতে চাই না। টুর্নামেন্ট চলছে, আশা করি প্রত্যেক খেলোয়াড় তাদের সামর্থ্য অনুযায়ী ভালো খেলবে।’

তবে অধিনায়ক মুশফিকুর রহিমের ওপর সভাপতি এখনো আস্থাশীল, ‘আগের সিরিজগুলোর সময় আমরা মনে করেছি, সে পুরোপুরি নির্ভর করার মতো। আমার এ ব্যাপারে এখনো কোনো সন্দেহ নেই। খেলোয়াড়দের সঙ্গে আমরা এসব নিয়ে কথা বলি না। এটা আসলে অপারেশন্সে যারা আছে তাদের ব্যাপার।’ বোর্ড সভাপতি কোচ শেন জার্গেনসেনকে নিয়েও ইঙ্গিত দিয়েছেন, ‘মেসেজ যার যা পাওয়া দরকার, ইতিমধ্যেই পেয়ে গেছে আমার কাছ থেকে।’ কোচ জার্গেনসেনের খেলোয়াড়দের ওপর কতটুকু নিয়ন্ত্রণ তা নিয়েই যে প্রশ্ন আছে সভাপতির, ‘আমি জিজ্ঞেস করেছিলাম তোমাদের গেম প্ল্যান কী? ও বলেছিল এটা। আমি বললাম, এটা তো হয়নি। ও বলে, বলেছিলাম, কিন্তু ওরা তা করতে পারেনি। করতে না পারলে তাদের বিরুদ্ধে ব্যবস্থা কী...?’ দলীয় পরিকল্পনা কাজে লাগাতে ব্যর্থ ক্রিকেটারদের ব্যাপারে ভবিষ্যতে কঠোর হবেন নাজমুল, ‘দল এমনিও হারে, ওমনিও হারে, কিন্তু শৃঙ্খলা মানতে হবে। কেউ পরিকল্পনা না মানলে কঠিন সিদ্ধান্ত নিতে হবে। দরকার হলে ড্রপ করতে হবে। বলে দিতে হবে, কথা শোনোনি বলে তোমাকে ড্রপ করা হলো। এতে সাময়িকভাবে ক্ষতিগ্রস্ত হলেও ভবিষ্যতে লাভবান হব বলেই মনে করি।’ তবে এখন পর্যন্ত কারও বাদ পড়াই শাস্তি নয় বলে জানিয়েছেন। পরিবর্তন যাই হয়েছে, দলীয় সমন্বয়ের জন্য।

মুশফিকুর রহিম একটা কথা আগেও বলেছিলেন, পরশু ওয়েস্ট ইন্ডিজের কাছে হারের পরও বললেন—গত দুই বছর বাংলাদেশ দলের ক্রিকেটাররা চাপমুক্ত থেকে খেললেও এখন সেটা হচ্ছে না। অনেকে নাকি দলে জায়গা ধরে রাখা নিয়েই উদ্বিগ্ন। প্রসঙ্গটা তুললে বোর্ড সভাপতি অবাকই হলেন একটু, ‘ওপেনিংয়ে কেউ খারাপ করলে আমাকে তো তিনজনের মধ্য থেকেই কাউকে নিতে হবে। এখানে তারা কী অনিশ্চয়তা দেখছে, বুঝি না। মিডল অর্ডারে সাকিব-মুশফিককে নিয়ে কারও কোনো কথা নেই। পেস বোলাদের নিয়েও কথা নেই। কথা আসতে পারে শুধু রিয়াদ (মাহমুদউল্লাহ) এবং নাসিরকে নিয়ে। খারাপ সময় যেতেই পারে একজনের। তাই বলে অন্যদের সুযোগ না দিলে তাদের দলে রেখে লাভ কী?’

More at http://www.prothom-alo.com//sports/a...A6%A4%E0%A6%A8

[Gowza]

could go either way but now at least the players should be thinking i better perform or i'll be out, and if they're not thinking that and they get dropped then it's their own fault. they've been given their warning, it's now up to them to perform and say i do deserve to be in this team.

[kiriket]

Also we need change in BC forum. each of us will be allowed to make only one post a day. they should spend the life in outside world and enjoy other thing which they can directly control & influence.
Match hoy ekta ar post hoy eksho ta. ar dol banai hazar ta.

[Yameen]

Originally Posted by Sohel
My solution will involve the following: -

1) Saber Bhai as an uncompromising, Vladimir Putinesque BCB Tsar and Shakil Kasem as his equally capable PM.

2) KM Pilot as the chief selector. He'll work with the coaching staff and captain to select coachable players serious about winning and representing our country.

3) Shourobh Ganguly as the ruthless Head Coach capable of Bangla gala-gali, Salahuddin as the batting coach, Ian Pont as the bowling coach, Julien Fountain as the fielding coach.

4) Shakib Al Hasan as the captain but he must be guided into better PR skills and work ethic off the field.

I always wanted Ganguly to be part of the coaching personnel, glad others are thinking along the same lines!

[ahnaf]

ganguli as our coach? after what he did with tamim during ipl ? No thanks. Furthermore,we don't need any troublemaker in our team.

[jeesh]

Professional coaches pls. A professional coach and a professional player-big difference. Whatmore didnt play much cricket, neither did Buchanan. But both are world class coaches, amongst the best.

Follow Sri Lanka. They are not going after superstars. They are getting solid professional coaches with great experience in developing cricket. Almost every coach they have gotten since Dav Whatmore are excellent- John Dyson, Trevor Bayliss, Tom Moody, Graham Ford and now Paul Farbrace. All high quality coaches. And these head coaches always had great support staff. For example: Stuart Law as an assistant coach at one point. Paul Farbrace was also an assistant coach. Their current staff has Atapattu who is even tipped to be a future national team coach. And not to mention having the expertise of Chaminda Vaas and Muralitharan. In other words their backroom is filled with great mentors and leaders. Sadly SJ might not even make it as a support staff of may international teams.

Coaching Bangladesh requires an individual with a great deal of experience in coaching, not necessarily as a player.

Bangladesh would be in a better position even if they decide to bring someone like Siddons or Whatmore back. And i just cant understand why BCB doesnt make better use of ex players like Aminul Islam or Mohammad Rafique whose presence are bound to help. Somethings better than nothing.

[ashrafi_mahb]

Mushfiq is a good player but not a good capatain, he doesn't even have the common knowledge to change bowler frequently in t20. All he think is oooo its left handed bats man so i have to give the ball to mahmudullah, ooo its right handed so now its sakib... what the hell... are u a cricketer ? street cricketer do lot better...

second , we MUST CHANGE OUR COACH, we need a coach who will actually teach our player something... bawling and fielding coach should be there with head coach constantly... team like BD need these coach constantly...

Not sure of drastic change of player in the team... but surely some change is needed....

All Mr. Papon is need to visit Banglacricket forum...

[One World]

Originally Posted by MHRAM
Mushfiq the leader and batsman is fine.

His tactics is what baffles everyone and I think he is not the only to be blamed. The coach is also responsible for such horror tactics like bringing your best bowler during the 13th over

His last two sweep shots which cost him getting out at crucial stages of both the innings, leaving behind acting responsible due to leadership role, put vital questions around that bold part of your statement.

[Jadukor]

Finally an analysis comes through from a Bangladeshi journalist.

Pretty much sums up what we have been screaming about in the forum over the past few months. Very good writing from Isam on cricinfo

http://www.espncricinfo.com/world-t2...ry/731549.html

[One World]

Originally Posted by Jadukor
Finally an analysis comes through from a Bangladeshi journalist.

Pretty much sums up what we have been screaming about in the forum over the past few months. Very good writing from Isam on cricinfo

http://www.espncricinfo.com/world-t2...ry/731549.html

Thanks for the link, pretty much well summed up indeed.

But look at the comments. It has definitely become obviously painful to read pathetic comments over and over without enough riddance to deliver neither as a squad member nor a fan.

[Zunaid]

One really should put no credence to mostly anonymous comments on the web. That being said, this:

Posted by Joamiq on (March 27, 2014, 7:41 GMT)
Mushfiq has made several odd decisions, but we're misplacing our focus. What difference do combinations and tactics make when you have a team full of players who can't hold simple catches? Bangladesh's problems are of attitude, temperament, focus, and commitment. Not alchemy. Concerns over these ancillary things only distracts focus from where it should lie.

[One World]

^ Actually comments like this has zero value, as it does not really provide you any insight or any suggestion that might be helpful, rather literally a comment which we may disregard without much ado.

Comments like the following which hurts as 50-60% of reader reactions on BD articles in Cricinfo contain a similarity of this with another 10-20% of chain reactions to that,

Posted by Ayaan10411 on (March 27, 2014, 7:25 GMT)
Bangladesh is not worth playing cricket at the international level; even if they play for next 100 years, still they will not be able to show a better performance than what they have shown in last 15 years.
Accept the reality guyz!!

[Zunaid]

Originally Posted by One World
^ Actually comments like this has zero value, as it does not really provide you any insight or any suggestion that might be helpful, rather literally a comment which we may disregard without much ado.

Comments like the following which hurts as 50-60% of reader reactions on BD articles in Cricinfo contain a similarity of this with another 10-20% of chain reactions to that,

Seriously?

Joamiq's comment clearly told us not to get baited by the red herring and look to the main issue of the team. Now it is up to the team management to get to the bottom of the dysfunction and solve it.

As to the naysayers, if you get your knickers in a wad every time some hater says something negative about Bangladesh cricket you will develop callouses in places where the sun don't shine.

Learn to ignore them.

[One World]

LOL to "callouses...shine",

you are right but still it is human mind and knowing that we just whitewashed an elite team and still receiving reaction of which we cannot really stand against tall, err..., hurts?

[Zunaid]

Originally Posted by One World
LOL to "callouses...shine",

you are right but still it is human mind and knowing that we just whitewashed an elite team and still receiving reaction of which we cannot really stand against tall, err..., hurts?

Yup, it hurts. Been doing this for 30+ years. I am all callous.

[imtiaz82]

The team doesn't require drastic change, only the captain needs to be replaced. Even South Africa was in a bad position against Holland today, but they got Steyn and Imran Tahir in at the right time to get the crucial wickets. Whereas when Bangladesh was in strong position against Srilanka, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Hong Kong, Mushy gave away the game with wrong bowling change and defensive field setting.

Some people may blame individual players like Nasir, Mahmudullah or Razzak for not performing, but every team goes through that. For India Yuvy is out of form, for WI Gales and Tsotsobe for SA, but the captain rotates the players in form and protects those weak links. So I feel majority of the blame for recent losses goes to Mushy. If it was 1/2 matches where he made errors, I would have given him benefit of doubt... but 6-7 matches in a row cannot be a coincidence.

[sakib12]

I can't believe some ppl are suggesting ganguly as our coach............he was a highly overrated player doing well mostly in subcontinent conditions....couldnt play short pitched deliveries....shoiab ke dekhle or pa kapto.....plus he has proved nothing as a coach.....we dont need more foreign mercenaries...thank u

[jeesh]

Originally Posted by imtiaz82
The team doesn't require drastic change, only the captain needs to be replaced. Even South Africa was in a bad position against Holland today, but they got Steyn and Imran Tahir in at the right time to get the crucial wickets. Whereas when Bangladesh was in strong position against Srilanka, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Hong Kong, Mushy gave away the game with wrong bowling change and defensive field setting.

Some people may blame individual players like Nasir, Mahmudullah or Razzak for not performing, but every team goes through that. For India Yuvy is out of form, for WI Gales and Tsotsobe for SA, but the captain rotates the players in form and protects those weak links. So I feel majority of the blame for recent losses goes to Mushy. If it was 1/2 matches where he made errors, I would have given him benefit of doubt... but 6-7 matches in a row cannot be a coincidence.

I actually think captaincy change is not enough. I ve always wondered 'Is SJ an excellent motivator and organizer, or he started the job at an excellent time after a lot of good work done by predecessors and vast majority of players at their peak."

Starting to realize its more of the latter. And being a technical oriented coach he hasnt been able to improve the bowling either.

The team needs to be in the hand of a senior coach who commands respect and authority. Someone who has done the job before. We cannot afford to experiment if we want to advance our cricket.

[nightwatchman]

Originally Posted by Sohel
My solution will involve the following: -

1) Saber Bhai as an uncompromising, Vladimir Putinesque BCB Tsar and Shakil Kasem as his equally capable PM.

2) KM Pilot as the chief selector. He'll work with the coaching staff and captain to select coachable players serious about winning and representing our country.

3) Shourobh Ganguly as the ruthless Head Coach capable of Bangla gala-gali, Salahuddin as the batting coach, Ian Pont as the bowling coach, Julien Fountain as the fielding coach.

4) Shakib Al Hasan as the captain but he must be guided into better PR skills and work ethic off the field.

Moner kotha bolsen..
kintu tatey faida lutbey key?
Saber Bhai is hated by Apa and Papon is blessed by her...
Papon knows how to talk and talk he does....
Atahar should be the selector as watching cricket and seating with the greats in the commentary box makes him a better cricketer.. but I think he has cricket business and that could be off conflict of interest...
Agree with the 4th comment

[Fazal]

conflict of interest?

Who cares about conflict of interest? taile "Chacha arr mama" kemne selector hoi? bhaira kemne captain hoi?