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Myanmar Air Force inducted four Light Attack Helicopters H-120
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September 25, 2018, 10:36 AM
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Pakistan Has Just Tested the Ultimate Nuclear Missile (MIRV) - Robert Ashley (DIA)
Ababeel (MIRV) - I
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Pakistan has tested a ballistic missile with a multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle (MIRV), the United States confirmed this week.
During testimony to Congress outlining worldwide threats on March 6, Robert Ashley, the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), stated: “In January 2017, Pakistan conducted the first test launch of its nuclear-capable Ababeel ballistic missile, demonstrating South Asia’s first MIRV payload.” It appeared to be the first time a U.S. official publicly confirmed that Islamabad tested a MIRVed missile; however, in a report last year on missile threats around the world, the Defense Intelligence Ballistic Missile Analysis Committee noted, “In January 2017, [Pakistan] began testing the MIRVed Ababeel MRBM.”
MIRVs allow a single missile to deliver multiple warheads against different targets.
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September 25, 2018, 12:11 PM
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Until the philosophy which hold one race superior
And another
Inferior
Is finally
And permanently
Discredited
And abandoned
Everywhere is war
Me say war.
That until there no longer
First class and second class citizens of any nation
Until the color of a man's skin
Is of no more significance than the color of his eyes
Me say war.
That until the basic human rights
Are equally guaranteed to all,
Without regard to race
Dis a war.
That until that day
The dream of lasting peace,
World citizenship
Rule of international morality
Will remain in but a fleeting illusion to be pursued,
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i have heard that BAF interested to buy 8 Chinese J-10 fighter jet. but no confirmation from Bangladesh Govt yet.
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Please no more Chinese crap. Chengdus and Fengdus scare no one.
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September 25, 2018, 07:13 PM
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Please no more Chinese crap. Chengdus and Fengdus scare no one.
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If someone thinks that getting F-16s or F-15s/F-18s is very easy from US, thn they are mistaken. thre are many strings attached with US technology. Just recently Turkey got screwed over 5th Gen F-35s, even they were partners in this project. US just stopped the first batch delivery of F-35s to Turkey.so thats how Defence Industry world works. especially the US & NATO.
Only few countries like, russia, china and some european countries are reliable.
J-10 was the first choice of Pakistan airforce if they didnt get more F-16s in mid-2005.
but we got more F-16s,so we canceled the deal.
J-10 is considered to be equal of F-16 Block-50/52. Thats why Chinese Airforce have 340+ Units of J-10s. Its consider as a Backbone in single-engine fighter category for Chinese airforce.
J-10 is considered one of the few Aircrafts which has DSI Tech, along with PAF JF-17s & US/NATO F-35s
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September 26, 2018, 05:56 AM
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Those J10's look like a knock-off of Tornado & Eurofighter combined.
How much are the unit costs compared to MIgs ? What do you say about the Grypens, Vixen ?
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September 26, 2018, 08:05 AM
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Those J10's look like a knock-off of Tornado & Eurofighter combined.
How much are the unit costs compared to MIgs ? What do you say about the Grypens, Vixen ?
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In mid-80s, its believe to be when Israel IAI Lavi cancel the Lavi project becoz Israel got the F-16s from america. on that time Chinese got the blue print of this jet.
here are the Isreal IAI Lavi prototypes -
later thn Chinese modified the design little bit more according to thre requirements.
Chinese are not stupid, they have inducted 340+ Units of this jet for some reason.
Cost per Unit-
J-10s - 25 to 27 million USD ( AESA radar )
MIG-29 - 22 to 25 million USD
JF-17 - 25 to 28 million USD ( AESA )
F/A-18 - 29 to 32 million USD
Gripen - 30 to 55 million USD ( AESA )
Cost difference of J-10s and Mig-29 is becoz the AESA radar, which is the must in aircraft combat.
Even F-16s have no AESA radar till Blcok-60s, which is the latest one they sold to UAE.
IMO, for a customer, J-10 is a good 4+ Gen fighter compared to US/NATO aircrafts with no strings attached.
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Vixen your country is playing. Wth are u doing here?
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September 26, 2018, 10:19 AM
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What's the budget for defence in the Pakistan government?
Trillions? Billions?
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September 26, 2018, 10:23 AM
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What's the budget for defence in the Pakistan government?
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As a percentage of GDP, it is the most amongst any South east asian countries. Military is also the most powerful entity in Pakistan. They even ruled the country for more than half its existence. They also own a lot of businesses inside Pakistan.
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September 26, 2018, 10:28 AM
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As a percentage of GDP, it is the most amongst any South east asian countries. Military is also the most powerful entity in Pakistan. They even ruled the country for more than half its existence. They also own a lot of businesses inside Pakistan.
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And China providing loans for the purchase of armaments?
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September 26, 2018, 10:29 AM
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we are going to loose it anyway.
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What's the budget for defence in the Pakistan government?
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As a percentage of GDP, it is the most amongst any South east asian countries. Military is also the most powerful entity in Pakistan. They even ruled the country for more than half its existence. They also own a lot of businesses inside Pakistan.
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Its almost 6 to 7 Billion USD. Its average compared to the constant threats we have from our east and west borders.
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September 26, 2018, 10:37 AM
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And China providing loans for the purchase of armaments?
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yup, sometimes soft loans, sometimes under ToT. In past even US provided us for soft loans.
but we are trying to be self sufficient now a days. mostly military equipment we try to build indigenously our own or try to get under ToT. which is far better option thn soft loans or hard cash. becoz thre will be no strings attached, and we can modify the machine according to our requirements.
Like fighter jets, trainer aircrafts, Tanks, ANTI-TANK MPD, Navy Ships, Navy Subs, missiles etc.
we also sold to other arab/african/asian countries as well.
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we are going to loose it anyway.
Its almost 6 to 7 Billion USD. Its average compared to the constant threats we have from our east and west borders.
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What threats have you faced from the eastern border?
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Lol, these shitty hunk of junks will be demolished in a few hours if they had to dogfight a European Euro fighter Typhoon
The only aircraft that can give competition to the F-22. I rate the new 5th Generation jets by China to be on par with the F/A 18 Super Hornet
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What threats have you faced from the eastern border?
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https://www.cricbuzz.com/live-cricke...-asia-cup-2018
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September 28, 2018, 09:48 AM
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Lol, these shitty hunk of junks will be demolished in a few hours if they had to dogfight a European Euro fighter Typhoon
The only aircraft that can give competition to the F-22. I rate the new 5th Generation jets by China to be on par with the F/A 18 Super Hornet
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my freind, You rate them, its your opinion. but International defence analyst says something else about chinese tech, including US and NATO.
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well its not Indo-pak thread. but the fact is fact. and everyone knows that. i dont need to go in details about past/present issues, so just leave it that way.
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well its not Indo-pak thread. but the fact is fact. and everyone knows that. i dont need to go in details about past/present issues, so just leave it that way.
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^ Exactly. So then you should stick to the topic instead of making assertions like that. Unless of course, you are willing to back them up.
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Lol, these shitty hunk of junks will be demolished in a few hours if they had to dogfight a European Euro fighter Typhoon
The only aircraft that can give competition to the F-22. I rate the new 5th Generation jets by China to be on par with the F/A 18 Super Hornet
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Not true, gripen is very capable.
Even SU-35 can take on a f-22, if it see's it early.
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Dog fights are a thing of the past.. most advanced jet can fire bvr (beyond visual range) missiles.. Anyways.. all this is IS a dick measuring contest amongst nations
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Speaking of armour, the best tanks in the world imho are probably the T-90A MBT and the American M1A1 and M1A2 Abrams.
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