***The Donald Trump Thread***

[aklemalp]

Yessir (/s)

Brutal and Extended Cold Blast could shatter ALL RECORDS - Whatever happened to Global Warming?

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 22, 2018

[mufi_02]

Originally Posted by aklemalp
Yessir (/s)

Brutal and Extended Cold Blast could shatter ALL RECORDS - Whatever happened to Global Warming?

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 22, 2018

LOL. Even by Trump’s standards this has got to be one of his stupidest ones. I want to know how his die hard MAGA peeps can explain this.

Weather is not climate.

[tonmoy.dhaka]

I think, the term "Global Warming" is really misunderstood.
Scientist now prefer using the term "Climate Change"

[adamnsu]

Originally Posted by tonmoy.dhaka
Scientist now prefer using the term "Climate Change"

I wonder if thats because Saudi Arabia sees snow these days

[NoName]

Originally Posted by mufi_02
LOL. Even by Trump’s standards this has got to be one of his stupidest ones. I want to know how his die hard MAGA peeps can explain this.

Weather is not climate.

I doubt most people even know the difference between the two, MAGA and non-MAGA peeps

[al Furqaan]

The MAGA phenomenon is not just ruining America's foreign standing, its doing all our enemies jobs for them.

The right wing obsession with guns leads to increased mass shootings. The jihadists can retire because mentally unstable Americans will kill more Americans more efficiently. MAGA shooters are a bigger threat to synagogues than Palestinian terrorists.

The climate change denial will cost the US economy up to 10% of our GDP by the year 2100, according to the US government. Good job Trump...losing 10% of our GDP is not gonna bring back more jobs.

Trade war with China might harm the Chinese economy more than ours. But you have to remember that China is a socialist country. Their population can tolerate austerity and scarcity better than ours can. You can't beat them in a trade war.

By breaking the treaty with Iran, the North Koreans now know that no agreement reached with us is safe. So why do it?

The hyped up Middle East peace deal is a bust of Sam Bowie proportions. The Palestinians have rejected it before they've even seen it and now the Israeli right is also saying its a waste of time.

Mexico is still not paying for the wall. Speaking of which, has the wall even been built yet?

And fear mongering couldn't prevent the Democrats from taking control of the House.

[zman]

So now people are complaining about Trump's move to pull out of Syria and partially Afghanistan

[Roey Haque]

Another day to be thankful for that Trump's in office, and not Hillary!

[ToBeFair]

Originally Posted by zman
So now people are complaining about Trump's move to pull out of Syria and partially Afghanistan

Commendable move from President Trump! It does not matter who is in office, as long as a politician makes a right policy move, he or she should be praised.

Corporate Dems are silent so far because they are also in bed with the defense contractors. Corporate media is also silent because they too are paid by the defense contractors. There was never a war corporate media did not like. Remember hack Fareed Zakaria who once told that Trump looked presidential for the first time because he dropped bombs over Syria

[Roey Haque]

President Trump continues to be amazing, pulling out of sand and death. Rightly labeled.

Another day to wake up and be happy that demon Hillary is not in office.

[ToBeFair]

President Trump already backpaddling about pulling out troops from Syria. When you have deplorables like John Bolton as your national security advisor, this was bound to happen.

[epitaph]

Bangladeshi Trump supporters. Now that's funny.

[Zeeshan]

Originally Posted by epitaph
Bangladeshi Trump supporters. Now that's funny.

Yes. Because everything is black and white. RIP nuance, shades and subtlety.

[Roey Haque]

Originally Posted by mufi_02
LOL. Even by Trump’s standards this has got to be one of his stupidest ones. I want to know how his die hard MAGA peeps can explain this.

Weather is not climate.

Oh, I missed this. Yep, this is extremely dumb. Who is advising the prez these days? I know him smarter than this. Also belittled India's efforts in Afghanistan recently which was a really bad move, as there is a strong axis between the American and Indian right wings, and bless them.

Seems he is finally making mistakes. Thank God the mainstream media cried wolf too many times before with non-issues, so now this will be brushed under the carpet quickly.
Thanks MSM!

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by Roey Haque
Also belittled India's efforts in Afghanistan recently which was a really bad move, as there is a strong axis between the American and Indian right wings, and bless them.

There actually can't be much of a cooperation between right wings of various countries without one side being the other's b***tch. By definition right wings are nationalistic and jingoistic. Using US and India as examples, the US right wing will want to project American power and exceptionalism. But the Indian right wing will want to do the same ie project Indian power and exceptionalism. So whether it comes to trade or military power, if both sides seek to exert their own hegemony, one side must either cave to the other or they both end up in a stalemate.

The only situation in which two different right wing movements can avoid confrontation completely is in a true alliance in which all values are in sync. But that can't really happen with the vastly different cultures embodied by the US and India.

Right now India is not strong enough to really create problems for the US, but given present trends within 20-30 years, India will close the gap to the point that they will start to have diverging interests with the US.

[epitaph]

Originally Posted by Zeeshan
Yes. Because everything is black and white. RIP nuance, shades and subtlety.

Nuance, shades and subtlety with Trump?

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by Roey Haque
Who is advising the prez these days?

He could have the smartest advisors and it wouldn't make much difference because Trump wouldn't listen to him. For a guy who hires only the best people, he sure fires an awful lot of them. At least Mushfiqur Rahim doesn't hire the people he throws under the bus

[Tausif]

Originally Posted by Roey Haque
Oh, I missed this. Yep, this is extremely dumb. Who is advising the prez these days? I know him smarter than this.

He tweeted pretty much the same thing back in 2015 as well. Nothing to do with advisors, he just does not understand this lol.

It's really cold outside, they are calling it a major freeze, weeks ahead of normal. Man, we could use a big fat dose of global warming!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 19, 2015

[Yankees]

Originally Posted by al Furqaan
There actually can't be much of a cooperation between right wings of various countries without one side being the other's b***tch. By definition right wings are nationalistic and jingoistic. Using US and India as examples, the US right wing will want to project American power and exceptionalism. But the Indian right wing will want to do the same ie project Indian power and exceptionalism. So whether it comes to trade or military power, if both sides seek to exert their own hegemony, one side must either cave to the other or they both end up in a stalemate.

The only situation in which two different right wing movements can avoid confrontation completely is in a true alliance in which all values are in sync. But that can't really happen with the vastly different cultures embodied by the US and India.

Right now India is not strong enough to really create problems for the US, but given present trends within 20-30 years, India will close the gap to the point that they will start to have diverging interests with the US.

excellent point

[Roey Haque]

Originally Posted by al Furqaan
There actually can't be much of a cooperation between right wings of various countries without one side being the other's b***tch. By definition right wings are nationalistic and jingoistic. Using US and India as examples, the US right wing will want to project American power and exceptionalism. But the Indian right wing will want to do the same ie project Indian power and exceptionalism. So whether it comes to trade or military power, if both sides seek to exert their own hegemony, one side must either cave to the other or they both end up in a stalemate.

The only situation in which two different right wing movements can avoid confrontation completely is in a true alliance in which all values are in sync. But that can't really happen with the vastly different cultures embodied by the US and India.

Right now India is not strong enough to really create problems for the US, but given present trends within 20-30 years, India will close the gap to the point that they will start to have diverging interests with the US.

Without looking too far ahead, I just meant that nationalist governments around the world support each other, and don't have to step on each other's toes. So it was an unnecessary comment by Trump.

About the future, I share your sentiments. Because India under Modi is finally discovering the power of its Dharmic roots, and is unapologetic about it. And we know what the USA already is, with its awesome power of liberty for all, the type of thing that can foster enough individuality whereby one can absorb any idea in the world(Including Dharma) and Americanize it, and improve it even!

Won't go into the economy or military now. Just talking about the idea of USA and the idea of India here. And clash is definitely looming. But I think there are decades to go before any of this comes to fruition.

[ToBeFair]

Originally Posted by Roey Haque
Without looking too far ahead, I just meant that nationalist governments around the world support each other, and don't have to step on each other's toes. So it was an unnecessary comment by Trump.

About the future, I share your sentiments. Because India under Modi is finally discovering the power of its Dharmic roots, and is unapologetic about it. And we know what the USA already is, with its awesome power of liberty for all, the type of thing that can foster enough individuality whereby one can absorb any idea in the world(Including Dharma) and Americanize it, and improve it even!

Won't go into the economy or military now. Just talking about the idea of USA and the idea of India here. And clash is definitely looming. But I think there are decades to go before any of this comes to fruition.

Modi's dharmic power will very likely cost him premiership in the upcoming election. Through politics of divide and rule, political parties can attain short term gains, but the country loses in the long term.
　
BJP will pay a heavy price for the divide and rule chaos it has created all over India: the NRC gamble at Assam which is a ticking time bomb, weakening of constitutional institutions including election commission and the supreme court, and encouraging violence all over India over cow. The Rafale deal was the most blatant example of on your face corruption, but even more spectacular was how the supreme court turned down an investigation to the deal, citing its lack of expertise in investigating and scrutinizing sensitive defense/technical deals.
　
Dharmic power is only good for meaningless huffing and puffing, and it does not earn you any respect at the global stage. Dharmic power will not make you a super power. One of the key requirements for becoming a true super power is human development, and this is where India is far behind o China. In terms of discovery, creativity, and work ethic, the Chinese are leading the world.
　
Unless India can improve their human development, pull its massive population over the poverty line, and abandon its neo-liberal principles, India will not be a superpower and won't be able to compete with China.

[Roey Haque]

^ Not at all. BJP is here to stay. Congress top dogs are the ones all involved in corruption(didn't I see Rahul and Sonia get taken to court?), and they are the ones who engage in divide and rule trying to foster regional and communal identities for votebanks. India finally have a leader under Modi who is taking all Indians back to their Dharmic roots under Hindustan, and forging an identity that can compete with American exceptionalism in the future.

Getting one up over China is no big deal at all. I read somewhere that the Indian economy will be bigger than China in the next 5 years, if you account for purchasing power of parity, which you absolutely must do, because comparing GDPs is meaningless if you don't take into account the cost of living.

About poverty, I agree with you. Not just India, but Bd also must give people the dignity of labor. Till that happens, none of the asian countries can be called a first world country. This issue has been bugging me a lot recently, that's why I also drag Bd into it, because it's a great opportunity for Bd to be in the forefront of this issue.

Outsourcing is a sick disease, only possible because some countries won't value their lower skilled workers and give them their dues. But it starts with your values first. So don't pooh pooh values and just focus on economy, or you will miss the greater picture.

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by Roey Haque
Getting one up over China is no big deal at all. I read somewhere that the Indian economy will be bigger than China in the next 5 years, if you account for purchasing power of parity, which you absolutely must do, because comparing GDPs is meaningless if you don't take into account the cost of living.

By PPP, China's economy is bigger than the US even. India wont be able to catch up even in 50 years because China's is also a growing economy.

In terms of global leadership, China will surpass the US in 20 years and India will draw close soon after that. Even quicker if Trump's isolationism lasts till 2024. China is filling the TPP and other voids left by the US.

But overall, the single biggest cataclysmic threat in our lifetime will be from climate change and the US, China, and India will be the biggest contributors. Severe weather, droughts, famine, and mass migration will ultimately lead to violence and I suspect by the year 2100, the human population will either be on the verge of extinction or significantly smaller than the 7 billion it is now. Regarldess life will be very different just a few generations from now.

[zman]

So what do you guys think about the wall? Especially those living in the US? I think we need it. Yes I've seen many of the stats. I accept some of them and am skeptical about others. It's not very difficult to present the data in a manner that supports any side of the argument. I accept that the number of illegals trying to enter through the borders has gone down quite a bit in the last decade. Yet there's 400,000 people trying to enter the US illegally through the borders every year. That's a huge number. You can try to stop others who enter the land by airplanes and ships, you can adopt technological solutions to make the borders safer, but the wall doesn't stand to hinder any of that effort. The issue is significant and needs to be dealt with.

[Jadukor]

In my opinion physical barrier is absolutely needed but it needs to be done in combination with other things such as investments in technology and personnel. Trump simply needed to talk about the bigger picture which is to gain control over the southern border with whatever method the ground experts believe will be effective or recommend. This "wall" demand derailed the conversation as well as pushing the notion that immigrants pose a security threat. What would have sold the idea for the public was if he had proposed a wide variety of solutions (including physical barriers) to address the humanitarian crisis at the border. That would have appealed to both Democrats and Republican voters.