2020 US Presidential Election Thread

[ToBeFair]

Another disaster waiting for Biden -a foreign policy decision he made where there was a clear conflict of interest. He forced the removal of Ukrainian Attorney General because the AG was set to probe Joe's son's financial dealings with a Ukrainian company.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...obe-is-revived

[ToBeFair]

2020 Democratic primary will turn out like 2016 Republican primary.

In 2016, with 180 million on his war chest a year before the start of primary, establishment darling Jeb Bush was the supposed front runner. Establishment was fawning over a dream Bush v Clinton race. In came disruptor in chief Donald J. Trump, and he sent LOW ENERGY Jeb Please Clap Bush packing after the NH primary. Thereafter, establishment coalesced around Ted Cruz. By Super Tuesday when it became clear that Trump would be the nominee, establishment still acted in disbelief and remained in denial that Trump can win the nomination, and put their support behind Kasich and started parroting the narrative of contested convention. Trump had the movement and people behind him and he comfortably won 50%+ delegates. He became the nominee and an offshoot of establishment became NeverTrumpers for a while, but ultimately this group too bowed down before King Donald after he became POTUS.

In the 2020 democratic primary, events are playing out similarly. First the corporate media manufactured fake Biden mania. This is already collapsing. As their back up plan, they are now endlessly puffing up Crooked Kamala and Centrist living parody Beto O’Rourke. They are now puffing up Pete Buttigeig too. They are afraid to death of Bernie winning the race.

But like Trump, Bernie very likely will win the race. Hair sniffer Biden already has one leg in the TRASH HEAP. Crooked Kamala and Beto will probably give a minimal fight like Cruz-Kasich did against Trump in 2016. But Bernie will ultimately accrue 50%+ delegates.

The good thing is Team Bernie is not taking anything for granted. They know that it will be a bruising primary and thus they are very well prepared.

On the other hand, losers like Biden and Beto are showing entitlement for presidency from the very beginning, and has no clear plan to fight for nomination. Showing entitlement – as Hillary proved – is a clear recipe for DISASTER and HUMILIATION.

How will Obama-Clinton react if Biden wins the nomination? Will they become NeverBernie? Or will they eat the humble pie and support him? I am sure Bernie will be a bigger humble pie than Trump

[ToBeFair]

Hair Sniffer Biden, who said will respectfully listen to women coming up with their stories and learn, behind closed doors said he will KILL Bernie if required, because his team believes Team Bernie is pushing these stories to the front. If Joe had a truly repentant and changed heart as he claims, which he surely does not have, he would have not related these revelations to Team Bernie, because this correlation further disrespects the victims of Joe’s creepy and predatory behavior by questioning their motive for coming public.

What has been more disingenuous than Biden claiming he will listen respectfully is the establishment defense of Biden. They are normalizing Biden’s creepy behavior saying it was normal at a time when he grew up. May be I am missing the point because I am a millennial but it is objectively obvious that such behavior is NOT normal. Even if I give Biden the benefit of doubt that he is from a different era, when you make people uncomfortable with your behavior and actions, they definitely emit visual cues, and if a person is self-aware and have common sense, he can immediately learn and rectify his behavior and actions based on those cues. That Biden has failed to take note of those obvious uncomfortable cues for decades is a testament that he is a person who does not have self-awareness and adequate common sense, and this inadequacy definitely disqualifies someone from running for the highest office.

Another argument from the establishment has been Biden’s creepiness is nothing compared to Trump’s perverseness. But this comparison fails because Trump is a living Satan (devil). When someone portrays a devilish character like Trump, evil is the feature, not the bug. Any evil – pervert behavior, sexual harassment, corruption does not impede Trump – evil only emboldens the devil. But Biden on the other hand is portraying himself as the probable uniter in chief and the good guy, and in this personification, not nearly as bad as Trump will not get you any brownie point. Not nearly as bad as Trump is completely antithetical to the image you are promoting yourself as a sane, mature, responsible democratic nominee and Trump alternative, and thus Joe’s creepiness, no matter how it is whitewashed, will destroy (or has already destroyed) his candidacy.

Hair Sniffer Uncle Joe Is DONE!

Members of Joe Biden's inner circle are becoming increasingly convinced the Bernie Sanders' campaign is behind at least one of the explosive accusations of physical misconduct recently leveled against the former vice president -- and, in the words of one prominent backer, Biden is now "ready to kill Bernie."

But Sanders campaign manager Faiz Shakir strongly denied any suggestion that the senator’s team or its allies were behind the Flores story, and directed Fox News to an earlier statement on the matter.

“Neither the Bernie Sanders campaign, nor anyone involved in it, planted, planned, persuaded, cajoled or otherwise urged Lucy Flores or anyone else to tell their story. Full stop, period, end of sentence. I don’t want to hear it. We didn’t play a role,” Shakir said.

“But this is why my blood boils,” he added. “We have heard through innuendo and rumors that somehow this campaign was involved in Lucy Flores telling her story, and it is deeply disrespectful and shameful that any time a woman comes forward to tell her story there has to be some kind of intimation or suggestion that that person is doing so out of some political agenda and or that the person may be lying."

Shakir continued: "We went through the Donald Trump campaign in which a number of women came forward to tell their stories and they were dismissed and criticized and ripped by the president of the United States on the highest stage of the land. We saw it with Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, that she must be a Dianne Feinstein plant. It is dismissive and disrespectful that whenever a woman comes forward the first suggestion is that there has to be a political agenda driving them.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/san...to-kill-Bernie

https://www.thedailybeast.com/joe-bi...ons?ref=scroll

[ToBeFair]

Two more women accused Biden of inappropriate touching:

Twenty-two year-old Caitlyn Caruso claimed Biden put his hand on her thigh and hugged "just a little bit too long" during a sexual assault awareness event at the University of Nevada at Las Vegas, according to The Times.

Caruso, who was 19 years old at the time, told The Times she did not bring attention to the alleged incident because she assumed it was how men behaved. Caruso said she had revealed details of her own sexual assault at the event, and she had expected Biden to appreciate the concept of physical boundaries.

"It doesn't even really cross your mind that such a person would dare perpetuate harm like that," she told The Times. "These are supposed to be people you can trust."

DJ Hill, the second woman, alleged Biden moved his hands from her shoulder to her back while she and her husband posed for a photograph in 2012. Hill, who is 59 years old, said her husband witnessed the incident and put his own hand on Biden's shoulder.

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-...-report-2019-4

[ToBeFair]

Great advice to Uncle Joe, and he should listen to it if he does not want to go to his grave as hair sniffer:

https://www.philly.com/columnists/at...-20190402.html

Mr. Vice President, if you truly want to enjoy the afterglow of a fairly successful stint as Barack Obama’s wingman, please don’t run.

Even before the inappropriate-touching conversation quickly inhaled all the TV oxygen that was free-floating after the Barr cover-up suffocated the Mueller Report, Biden 2020 was quickly becoming an endless “apology tour” (unlike the fake one that Obama was accused of by the Far Right) that made it hard to imagine either when or how he would pivot to real issues, or what would be his selling point, beyond the fact that he’s not Donald Trump.

In its current bizarre state, with ex-veep showing up defensively at various rubber-chicken dinners every three days or so and defending his past while failing to articulate any vision of the future under a Biden administration, this may be — so far — the worst presidential campaign this child-of-Watergate-politics-geek has ever seen.

[aklemalp]

This is a pro Bernie thread?

Just inquiring.

[ToBeFair]

Originally Posted by aklemalp
This is a pro Bernie thread?

Just inquiring.

I am a Bernie supporter and my posts are naturally biased towards him.

If there are supporters of other candidates, they are free to make their points and balance out the discussion.

[ToBeFair]

This pesky B**tyjudge is surging in the polls. He will be a headache for Sanders team.

He says Democrats need to focus more on PHILOSOPHY and VALUES and policy should come later. Horrible response. Another FAKE progressive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm1fXmbWJ8s

[ToBeFair]

Three more women accuse Biden of inappropriate touching. The number now totals SEVEN.

Among the allegations, Vail Kohnert-Yount, a former intern at the White House, told the Post that in 2013 she met the vice president at the White House.

After shaking hands, "he put his hand on the back of my head and pressed his forehead to my forehead while he talked to me. I was so shocked that it was hard to focus on what he was saying. I remember he told me I was a ‘pretty girl,’" Kohnert-Yount told the Post.

Another accuser, Sofie Karasek, told the Post that she told Biden a story about a college student who was the victim of a sexual assault during the Oscars in 2016. She told the Post that after she told Biden that the student had committed suicide after the assault, Biden took her hands and placed his forehead against hers.

Karasek told the Post that it was an awkward moment and that she did not know how to react. She said she doesn't feel Biden's video apology was enough.

"He emphasized that he wants to connect with people and, of course, that’s important. But, again, all of our interactions and friendships are a two-way street," Karasek said, adding that Biden "still didn’t take ownership in the way that he needs to."

A third woman on Wednesday told the Post that Biden held her close "for a beat too long" during a 2008 event when she was introduced to the former vice president.

Ally Coll said Biden leaned in, squeezed her shoulders and complimented her smile, according to the Post.

Biden released a video where he did not apologize for his behavior, but instead reiterated that he will change and grow to adapt with cultural shifts. If this low IQ dinosaur had any self awareness and ability to grow, it definitely would not take 76 years, public accusations from seven different women, and third presidential campaign to learn and grow. Pathetic to say the least.

The good things is Obama's (fake) Audacity of Hope legacy is being replaced by Audacity to Grope. Keep going Mr. Hair Sniffer Biden.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ng/3355536002/

[ToBeFair]

A great article diagnosing the problem of Biden:

Biden’s conduct is obviously different and less blameworthy than the men caught up in #MeToo: It’s not furtive, but out in the open, not sexual, but affectionate. He doesn’t stand accused of cruelly manipulating anyone or creating a hostile workplace.

No, his fundamental offense is not realizing that some people might not be as into Joe Biden as Joe Biden is into Joe Biden. He has an ego, not a libido, problem.

Biden lost all self-awareness somewhere in the Senate chamber about 40 years ago.

It’s not just that Biden’s a figure from a different era; he’s been in the bubble, deferred to and adored as a matter of course, for decades. He won his first Senate race at 29. He served with Barry Goldwater, William Fulbright, Adlai Stevenson and Sam Ervin. He was in the Senate for 36 years, before moving to the even more rarefied air of the vice presidency.

So, he’s clueless in the way that old Washington hands who refer to themselves in the third person and consider themselves living legends always are—only more so.

To use Biden’s own term, he believes his own malarkey.

He really thinks he’s the most charming man in the room and a master at human interaction. In his view, he’s doing everyone a favor by giving them a warm bath of Biden.

It’s truly never occurred to him that some women might not want to be grabbed, smelled, held, nuzzled, Eskimo-kissed, whispered to, and generally handled by their great champion and defender, Joe Biden.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...lem-ego-226566

[ToBeFair]

Abrams, sell out to predatory bankers, defends GROPIN' Joe. Of course she will, because birds of same feathers (i.e. corporate democrats) flock together. BTW, litmus test of perfection is only applicable for one and only candidate: Bernie Sanders.

Abrams praises Biden amid controversy: 'We cannot have perfection as a litmus test'

[ToBeFair]

The left wingers around the globe are feeling the BERN. Bernie has created a global movement. True. A true transformative politician.

The world’s left-wingers are feeling the Bern

“Over the moon that @BernieSanders is running for President in 2020,” wrote Laura Pidcock, Labour’s shadow minister for business, energy and industrial strategy, in a tweet after he announced his candidacy. “Bernie was never just a candidate, his campaign was a movement, galvanising millions & offering hope across the globe.”

In Canada, Israel, Germany and Spain, progressive politicians have also hailed the Vermont senator on social media and in interviews, often speaking favorably of his "Medicare for All" proposal, noninterventionist foreign policy and advocacy for the "Green New Deal." Sometimes, the excitement is borderline giddy: Stefan Liebich, a Left Party member of the German Bundestag, recently posted a photo of himself holding a Sanders figurine on social media, adding, “#feelthebern.”

But of course, LOSERS will be LOSERs. A CROOKED Hillary minion expressed cynicism about Sanders receiving admiration around the globe, fearing that a US president might be a sell out to foreign interests, except it was all OK when millions upon millions were funneled to Clinton Foundation during Queen Hillary's tenure as senator and SOS.

"There is a danger to collecting maybe not endorsements but positive reviews from far-left politicians around the world when American voters are still not quite sure about how they feel about democratic socialism,” said Jennifer Holdsworth, a former staffer for Hillary Clinton’s 2016 bid and the onetime campaign manager for Pete Buttigieg’s run for Democratic National Committee chairman. “And this is not just a Democratic primary conversation, this is also a general election conversation."

[DinRaat.]

This thread is gibberish to me honestly, don't know what's happening half the time. Yet I still get the urge to visit

[ToBeFair]

Eighth woman came forward against Gropin' Joe.

In response to her story, Karasek wrote, Biden “leaned down, took my hands and put his forehead to mine.”

“I was taken aback. I averted my eyes, hoping my body language could shorten the interaction. I didn’t think he was going to kiss me, but it felt like if I met his eyes, it wasn’t out of the question, either,” she continued. “It was unwelcome, uncomfortable and strange. At the same time, I was glad to convey this serious message to him, glad it seemed to resonate with him.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...ontact-1258876

And his apology video in twitter was another debacle. The recording quality was poor - mind you he wants to be a presidential candidate, and it did not include any apology. Women in general rejected it.

Following the release of the former vice president’s video, Flores released her own statement expressing frustration with his response.

‘I’m glad Vice President Joe Biden acknowledges that he made women feel uncomfortable with his unsolicited gestures of encouragement. Given the work he has done on behalf of women, Vice President Biden should be aware of how important it is to take personal responsibility for inappropriate behavior, and yet he hasn’t apologized to the women he made uncomfortable,” she wrote. “Times are changing yes, but not because once appropriate behavior is now inappropriate, but because women feel empowered to call it what it has always been — a violation of our bodily autonomy by powerful men.”

Instead, Flores contended, many Democrats and Biden allies attacked her — first by calling her a liar, then by questioning her motives and then by minimizing her experience and ridiculing it. She said that while President Trump’s transgressions have been far worse than what Biden has been accused of, the reaction by some in her party to the questions about Biden’s behavior will make it more difficult to claim a moral high ground in the 2020 presidential campaign.

“There has been a lot of hypocrisy,” Flores said. “You have women who are summarily dismissing mine and other women’s experiences – it’s not me anymore – but they have absolutely have no problem criticizing people who aren’t beloved in their own party.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...ocrats-1254618

Anyone who analyzes available Creepy Uncle Joe videos will notice that Creepy Joe clearly understands that his transgressing behavior puts women in uncomfortable situation, but he nonetheless continues his transgression, because being a pervert, he revels in their discomfort. If this guy demonstrates such perverseness in public, what does he do in private?

[ToBeFair]

President Trump mocks Biden's apology video

Trump Biden

WELCOME BACK JOE! pic.twitter.com/b2NbBSX3sx

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 4, 2019

[ToBeFair]

Since this thread is about presidential politics, it is worth discussing the following article:

AOC Is Cooler Than Obama. Here's Why That Matters

Coolness matters in politics. Obama was a FAKE but he sold himself by being cool. Bernie is not cool but he sold himself by having substance. But AOC is a formidable force because she has coolness as well as substance.

This is how the author defined coolness:

Before I elaborate, a necessary word of caution. In America, cool is dictated by consumption, which means it’s related to money, which means the world’s squarest people tend to decide what cool is. Who epitomized cool products? Steve Jobs. Who was profoundly uncool in every aspect of his behavior? Same guy. Cool is also defined by surrounding context. Let’s be honest: it doesn’t take a lot to be “cool” in politics. In politics, “cool” usually just means “a member of the ruling class that isn’t a bloodless ghoul or cousin of the Cryptkeeper.” This is a field where the human meme-prop Cory Booker has been labeled “cool” by gullible journalists. We shouldn’t consider cool as a factor in our politics.

But unfortunately, cool does matter. Coolness creates viability. Coolness crafts what the Cillizzas of the world call “a narrative.” Coolness means you get more magazine covers. It means college interns posting as teens create YouTube channels all about you. Coolness means random frat pledges will jump off their house yelling, “This death is for [YOUR NAME]!” Finally, coolness means conservatives get more upset at you than they would normally. On its own, cool is a meaningless signifier. But in politics, cool amounts to something, simply because the TV pundits and the media and the moneyed elite think it does. It’s a bit like owning a Harley.

Coolness helped Obama rise to presidency, but by having no substance, his presidency was MISERABLE to say the least.

AOC takes every platitude about the former president and turns it on its head. She shows the essential powerlessness, bad faith, and lack of conviction that determined the Obama presidency.

During the Obama administration, the staff responded to progressive demands for justice with the same tired arguments. The usual one was, “We have seriousness and practicality on our side.” The implied second defense was, “Who do you have that’s as charismatic as Obama?”

First off, the argument for Obama’s seriousness is dubious. What useful ends did his “seriousness” win for the American people? Aside from Hillary, Obama did more to elect the Orange President than any other human being. Every bipartisan buy-in initiated by Obama over eight years led directly to the door of Trump Tower. The hope we placed in Obama curdled right quick. No wonder so many 2008 and 2012 Obama voters switched en masse to the garish boob in the White House.

Second, the argument from practicality. Obama’s patronizing, transactional, so-mature politics stands revealed as a toothless farce. If your response to neoliberal crises is to double down on austerity programs, to promote endless wars, bailouts, dronings, and detention centers, then Trump is what you get.

Third, the question of charisma. AOC has it. We already know that progressive ideas are wildly popular. AOC gives them a highly engaging face. She rarely backs down from a fight, and will say what needs to be said.

AOC is eloquent, smart, charismatic, combative, and true progressive. Who knows - she may turn out to be the first female POTUS.

There’s an ancient maxim: Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line. If progressives are to beat the right, Dems must learn to leave their crushes when it is correct to do so. How did the conservatives climb to power? By calling out their leaders. By demanding change. The postwar conservatives kept pouring their right-wing ideology into the party. During this time, the Dems were giving more and more ground, moving right on economics, the environment, and the national security state. AOC is the first generation of the post-Carter Dems to break with the herd and call out the faux-progressivism of a once-popular presidency. It is cool and good she did that.

The people who are with Bernie will always be with him: he remains the most popular politician in America. But we need to think of the future. There has to be a figure who can say and do what Bernie cannot, because of his age and his dignity and his curmudgeonly nature. Additionally, the mainstream media is scared of Bernie. So there needs to be someone to fill the role that Obama filled, as apostle to the airwaves and beloved of moderates. Incredibly, AOC can play this role. Perhaps she can be the one who matches “coolness,” whatever that means, to genuinely transformative policy. The promise of Obama can be fulfilled, 12 years later.

The Democratic past has much that needs forgetting. The party must bring down the curtain on the age of Money, Meritocracy, and Means-testing. After 40 years of giving up and selling out, centrist-style surrender is finally going out of fashion. Enough humiliation. Enough cutting social spending. Enough of licking Republican boots in hopes that they’ll be bipartisan. Enough flattering the Howard Schultzes of the world. More power to AOC, and to all of us. The appeasement years, the Obama years, are over.

[ToBeFair]

Professor Barack Hussein Obama Jr. strikes again:

“One of the things I do worry about sometimes among progressives in the United States — maybe it’s true here as well — is a certain kind of rigidity where we say, ‘Oh, I’m sorry, this is how it’s going to be,’” Obama said. “And then we start sometimes creating what’s called a ‘circular firing squad’ where you start shooting at your allies because one of them is straying from purity on the issues.”

Of course Obama will complain about rigidity because the guy was never known for having a backbone to begin with. Have you ever complained about Republicans being rigid, Mr. President? Have you ever complained about neo-cons being rigid? Of course not. Because you sold your soul, your manhood, and your backbone to the wall street, the big pharma, and the military industrial complex to become the biggest ever invertebrate president of the United States. Republicans knew this fact about you. They therefore happily slapped you on your face and spitted on your eyes for eight years. They did not give you an inch on anything. They knew that there could not be any backlash from an invertebrate creature. And now you show the temerity to lecture progressives about rigidity and compromise? Spare me your hypocrisy, please.

The former president said he believes this approach “weakens” movements, and that those that would like to see a progressive agenda “have to recognize that the way we’ve structured democracy requires you to take into account people who don’t agree with you.”

Obama ended his speech by advocating for patience and incremental change: “We have to be careful in balancing big dreams and bold ideas with also recognizing that typically change happens in steps. And if you want to skip steps, you can. Historically what’s ended up happening is sometimes if you skip too many steps you end up having bad outcomes.”

Mr. Compromise, you surely did not skip too many steps. What was the result of your compromise and not-so rigid incremental step by step approach? The result is Donald J. Trump. And yet you show the nerve to preach your failed incremental theory. Accept it Barack, you were a FAILURE. You were a JOKE. And your legacy is DJT.

And one more thing: Do not lecture the world about your "structured democracy". The world has seen what that means. What your democracy means is CHEATING a genuine populist candidate by installing a crook like Debbie Wasserman Schultz and pushing an obviously flawed candidate like Hillary Clinton. It was your structured democracy that brought DJT at the helm of free world. The irreparable damage DJT is doing to America and the world, you Mr. Comprise is directly responsible for it.

And also please do not preach about patience. Patience is easy for you because you are getting millions of dollars for your speaking engagements. Majority of ordinary Americans cannot even afford a thousand dollar emergency. And yet you admonish your people about patience from a foreign land. What an irony.

There is saying: good manners is the last resort of a scoundrel. Do you think Mr. Incremental Change that your coolness will hide the horribleness of presidency? It won't. It was exposed while you were in office and the nail on the coffin was the election of DJT.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...wn-hall-speech

[Roey Haque]

Andrew Yang had the guts to show up to Ben's Sunday special. This is why he is the only dem candidate I respect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DHuRTvzMFw

I cannot imagine any other dems to come on and defend their policies and politics against Ben. That includes the commie loon. LOL. Can you imagine the carnage if loon showed up?

[Yankees]

Originally Posted by Roey Haque
Andrew Yang had the guts to show up to Ben's Sunday special. This is why he is the only dem candidate I respect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DHuRTvzMFw

I cannot imagine any other dems to come on and defend their policies and politics against Ben. That includes the commie loon. LOL. Can you imagine the carnage if loon showed up?

I'm shipping Andrew more than anyone else here, but 2 minutes in and I'm tapping out. Can't stand ben's nasally voice.

But more importantly, why should dems have to defend their policies against ben? Who tf is ben shapiro? He's a nobody with a mediocre podcast. A good orator who speaks fast to short circuit others into thinking he's right, and an obvious bigoted zionist who has continuously shown his hatred towards muslims and Palestinians.

If Andrew wasn't such an outsider looking in, he wouldn't be wasting his time with this a$$ hat. Which is why a frontrunner like bernie isnt going to do this.

Besides, Andrew, Pete B, and Bernie have already scheduled to do town halls on Fox. They dont need to cater to every little player here and there.

[ToBeFair]

Andrew Yang - even though I somewhat like his idea of UBI, he actually comes from a wealthy privileged family, and this privilege contributed to his success as a businessman. He is against free college. He is also very much pro-Big Tech (Amazon, Facebook Google), which is a big red flag.

As for facing Ben Shapiro, Bernie with his five decades of experience and consistency can definitely demolish Shapiro. The real question is not whether Bernie has the courage to face Ben, but rather, if Ben, who is DUMB as ROCK worth Bernie's time.

BTW, Bernie no way thinks that Trump voters are deplorable, and that is why he will be doing a townhall at Fox. But is Ben Shapiro deplorable? YES.

[ToBeFair]

Plain and simple. Beating Trump does not have to be complicated.

“Donald Trump campaigned on economic terms as faux Bernie Sanders. It was taking his language and selling it to the American people,” said Faiz Shakir, Sanders’ campaign manager. “And now how do you defeat faux Bernie Sanders? You defeat him with real Bernie Sanders.”

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...er_139989.html

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Plain and simple. Beating Trump does not have to be complicated.

“Donald Trump campaigned on economic terms as faux Bernie Sanders. It was taking his language and selling it to the American people,” said Faiz Shakir, Sanders’ campaign manager. “And now how do you defeat faux Bernie Sanders? You defeat him with real Bernie Sanders.”

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...er_139989.html

[ToBeFair]

Reality bites Beto after high-flying kickoff

The guy destined to be the POTUS is already getting tired of hopping on counter tops.

[ToBeFair]

Latest poll:

https://emersonpolling.reportablenew...her-home-state

Bernie beating Biden and Warren in Massachusetts.

More importantly, Pocahontas is lagging behind Sanders and Gropin' Joe in her home state

It is karma dear F(ake)ochatonas - go and take campaign advice from the candidate you endorsed in 2016.

BTW, in 2016, Bernie was in dire need of her endorsement in Massachusetts. Had she endorsed him, who knows, Bernie might have won the state and it could have changed the course of history.

[Fazal]

Bernie Sanders Says Felons Should Be Able To Vote While In Prison


“You’re still living in American society and you have a right to vote,” the 2020 Democratic presidential hopeful said.


Democratic presidential contender Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) says that people convicted of crimes should be able to vote while behind bars.



“I think that is absolutely the direction we should go,” Sanders told an American Civil Liberties Union volunteer who asked him about it during a town hall in Muscatine, Iowa, on Saturday.



“In my state, what we do is separate. You’re paying a price, you committed a crime, you’re in jail. That’s bad,” he added. “But you’re still living in American society and you have a right to vote. I believe in that, yes, I do.”

Most states disenfranchise felons. Only Sanders’ home state of Vermont and the state of Maine allow people to vote while incarcerated.