The buck stops where?

[imtiaz82]

Originally Posted by Zunaid
There is a rot top to bottom. Not trying to play the blame game but everyone should be held accountable for the current sorry state.

BCB President and other members - why have we not been able to yet have a competitive FC tournament over 10 years AFTER we received TEST status? BPL 1 and 2, despite the corruption scandal, helped teach our players the art of winning close games and learn from their international peers. Why do we have such poor training set up that player after player has none to zero footwork when they end of in the national team.

Selection committee - do you guys not look at recent form and continuously pick players based on past performances when they are going through a rough patch? Why pick an ODI specialist for Tests and a Test specialist for T20s?

Coach and coaching staff - Why haven't the batsmen learned proper footwork? Do you guys teach them? Why do our bowlers continue to bowl short and on the leg side? Why do they keep getting injured? Why did all our bowlers suddenly forget to bowl? Remember the Rubel who was bowling yorkers during our first Kiwiwash? What happened to him? What happened to Robiul? Why did all our spinners forget to spin?

Players - serious? Do you guys not train? Do you guys not practice to work out your deficiencies? Have you heard how real professional athletes train? Why are you satisfied in raising your bat after getting a 50 and, of course, get out next ball. Why the hell are you all so selfish?

I could go on and on and on....

Zunaid Bhai don't bother, we may not have top class first class cricket structure, good selection committee, coach, training etc; but neither does Afghanistan. But in the last 5 years they have improved in leaps and bounds while we have regressed.

In fact if I think about this, it's just the looser mentality of all of us (Bangladeshis), not just the cricket team. This lack of excellence and strive for mediocrity is evident in all sphere of life be it politics, economy or educational system. Even in other sports like football, hockey or our national sport Kabaddi we are at the bottom of the list. The mild weather and fertile land of the delta has created 160 million easy going, lazy and unambitious group of people.

[meazz1]

After all these years, we should not be complaining about off form players or missing Tamim or Shakib.
With all the tests and ODI experiences, we should have beaten AFG with our A team.
It's a shame for any of the BC members to even bring up something like "we did not have Tamim and Shakib" in the team!
Just admit we suck.
The NZ and WI series was than and this is the reality now.
No coach can do jack to this bunch, pls don't blame coach or selectors.
Move on!

Credits goes to the AFG players.

[SS]

BCB failed in the infrastructure development and lack of vision ... These players need real bashing...next two matches will be disaster as well ... Bring these clowns and whipped then as hard as we can

[Vua]

Well said, Zunaid.
Didn't the Indian public break Dhoni's house after India lost ? Maybe we should do the same to our players, when they embarrass us badly. Hey, at least this will give them some reason not to lose

[Haradhon]

I found a reason why BD is losing matches lately: Our top order has too many players with "ur" aand "ul": Look: AnamUL, ShamsUR, MominUL, MusfiqUR, Nasir, Naeem, JiaUR, Gazi, Razzaq, Sunny, Rubel

[meazz1]

Originally Posted by Jonas
Bangladesh were without their 3 most experienced players Shakib, Tamim and Mashrafe. Afghans are a decent team who caught us off guard. I'm sure Bangladesh will come back strongly against Pakistan when Shakib returns to the XI.

I hope our players have better judgement than yours.
Our A team should have beaten AFG.
We out numbered them in every department, experiences, ODIs played, Tests played, players with years of experiences.
Only department we are out numbered is the win dept against AFG.

It's time to hold people accountable, stop with that excuses.
Caught us off guard? How? Has this match taken place out of the blue? Did we not know about it before hand?
"Grow balls and take responsibility", that should be the team phrase now.

[shujan]

Originally Posted by Zunaid
Not taking away from the superior performance of the Afghans. this should be the last straw (I am writing this even before the game has ended, the result is irrelevant) . I am usually the last person to whine doom and gloom whenever we do badly but something is seriously wrong. How can a team who had not lost a home bilateral series since 2011 prior to the Lankan tour, suddenly implode like it has.

Somebody has to step up and take responsibility. This should go all the way to the top. The buck does stop somewhere.

Papon and BCB, SJ and the coaching staff, Mushy and the team must all be asked the tought questions. Not to do a lynching, but for once, to do what we need to do to fix our cricket.

Somebody with spine please stand up and take charge.

I have a hunch that our political unrest is creating anxiety in all aspect of life. When I talk to people back home the uttermost concern is political instability and uncertainty about future. People are worried about their and families future. It is very easy to under achieve when your concentration is about something which is ominous and larger then occupation.

[zsayeed]

And Afg has no political turmoil Bhai?

[mafizraju]

The result is really immaterial. It's the very way we "fought". This is not a pressure issue. The WI game in the last world cup was the pressure game. I think this is a combination of low confidence and skills issue.

Coaches:
Let's take Nasir Hossain as an example. We know he is a street hardened good player who is completely out of form. Being out of form is not an issue, neither the fact that the management kept picking him for the 11. The biggest issue is the way he is approaching the game on the field. He tried to get back to his form by trying to overhit, or playing half hearted shots in every ball. His fielding has also suffered. He looks like a disaster. This can happen. These are the sign of a man of low confidence. What has the coaching stuffs done to help him over last two months?

One can ask the same questions regarding the form of Gazi, Razzak, hujur, Ilias Sunny etc.

Zia and Anamul have been around with the team for some time now. We did not have a lot of games for the most part of the last year. It does not seem to me that either player have improved their game (adding new shots, working out the deficiencies) in the mean time. The coaching staffs surely is at fault.

The point is simple, what has Shane J and the other have done. I think our players are not getting the same quality of help as they have before. Law was good tactically, whereas Siddons was technically best. What is Shane good at ? Hardwork only doesnot cut it.

[Moh899]

beautifully said up there..those are the reasons why I want a new coaching set up..this is a young team, and they cant do abnything without coaches help. we need to learn how to play pace.

[shujan]

Originally Posted by zsayeed
And Afg has no political turmoil Bhai?

Yes they do! A lot more than ours. But they had worse time then what they are going thru now. Bangladesh in the contrary spiraling down into lawlessness from relatively stable period. Citizen is worried about their safety. It was not as bad as this for very long time.
It is like comparing similar caliber students performance differ if their home has domestic violence comparing to nurturing family. Stability allows population to flourish there potential. Instability hinder them.
History shows sports well to do countries are all politically consistent. Another examples are Zimbabwe and Pakistan they both are politically unstable and under achieving.

[Banglatiger84]

Originally Posted by Zunaid
Oh you'll be back. We will all be back. We are masochists after all.

Very true, the same reason why I went to Cricinfo after the match ended